In the middle of July, nearly half of U.S. pastors said one of the greatest challenges they’re facing right now is ministry to children and youth.

In this podcast, Carey and David drill deeper into this stat with student ministry leaders Leslie Mack, Director of Content for Switch (6th-12th grade) at Life.Church, and Shane Sanchez, Inside Out (Senior High) Director at Gwinnett Church in Atlanta, Georgia. Together, they offer clarity and direction to pastors who are struggling with next gen ministry in this difficult time.

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